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title: "Episode 3: Why we need governance"
description: In this episode, we talk to Paul Thomson from the U of S to explore why we need governance. Listen here or on your favorite podcast platform.
---

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# [Episode 3: Why we need governance](https://blog.cooperativesfirst.com/blog/2018/04/30/podcast-why-we-need-governance)

 Written by [Aasa Marshall](https://blog.cooperativesfirst.com/author/aasa-marshall) | Apr 30, 2018 7:22:54 PM

In this episode, we explore why we need governance. Kyle and Aasa from Co-operatives First talk to Paul Thompson, Research Officer at the University of Saskatchewan’s Centre for the Study of Co-operatives, and creator of the Good Governance Matters course.

We talk about the actors involved in governance, some of the challenges involved in getting governance right, and why governance is like steering a ship…and also marriage.

## **Links referred to in this episode**

[Centre for the Study of Co-operatives, University of Saskatchewan](http://usaskstudies.coop/index.php)

[Good Governance Matters course](https://cooperativesfirst.com/governance/)

[The Failure of Co-op Atlantic](https://www.grocer.coop/sites/default/files/article_files/183_-_failure_of_co-op_atlantic_0.pdf)

[The Two-Hat Problem](https://words.usask.ca/thinkingaboutcoops/2017/01/24/the-two-hat-problem/)

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